Cesarean for Footling Breech Followed by VBAC

Jen Kamel’s Birth Stories – Cesarean followed by VBAC

Jen Kamel planned a hospital birth with a midwife and after being told that her baby was in the single footling breech position, she found herself in the operating room after many months of envisioning a vaginal labor and delivery. She had a very painful recovery and knew she didn’t want to just schedule a cesarean for her next baby.

Her OB/GYN was very supportive, and assured her that she was an excellent VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarean) candidate since she had her cesarean for breech. But when she went out into the world, many friends and family members could not believe that she would consider a VBAC, which led her to do tons of research and develop VBAC Facts. In this episode she shares her cesarean and VBAC birth stories as well as some really great information around VBACs in general!

Jen Kamel Bio

Jen Kamel is a VBAC strategist and nationally recognized consumer advocate. She is also known as the founder of VBAC Facts, an educational, training and consulting firm. She has been invited to present Grand Rounds at hospitals educating obstetricians, maternal fetal medicine specialists, midwives, residents, and midwifery students on the latest VBAC evidence. She has traveled the country as a California Board of Registered Nursing Continuing Education Provider presenting her signature program “The Truth About VBAC” to hundreds of professionals and highly motivated parents. She speaks at national conferences and has worked as a legislative consultant in various states including California, Kentucky, Oklahoma, and Indiana focusing on midwifery legislation and regulations. She has testified multiple times in front of the California Medical Board and legislative committees on the importance of VBAC access, is a board member for the California Association of Midwives and the California Association of Licensed Midwives, and has served as an expert witness in a legal proceeding.

Additional Resources

Debunk 5 Uterine Rupture Myths

13 Myths About VBAC Facts

Latched Mama

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12lbs 3oz Cesarean Birth + HBAC (Homebirth After Cesarean)

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Cesarean Birth Followed by HBAC (Homebirth After Cesarean)

Diana’s first baby was an unexpectedly large, 12 lbs, 3 oz. He was born via c-section after a very long labor. It was a deeply traumatic experience for her, but when she became pregnant again 2 years later she knew she’d the have this second baby at home.

Diana had a completely different labor and birth experience the second time – a beautiful, fast home birth that was also incredibly healing for her. She wants any woman who’s had a traumatic birth or a c-section to know it’s possible to not only heal from it, but to have a better, empowering subsequent birth.

Diana Forsell Bio


Diana is a full time mom to two little boys, Arakel, who is three and a half, and Rama, one and a half. When she’s not chasing around her boys, Diana is a dedicated yogi, and loves to spend as much time outdoors with her family as possible. She lives in Seattle, WA. Connect with her on Instagram.


ICAN (International Cesarean Awareness Network)
Homebirth After Cesarean Book
Indie Birth

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Infertility, Placental Abruption Cesarean, and VBAC Birth Stories

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Alexandra Barretta is from Queens, NY. After struggling with infertility, she was able to get pregnant after several IUI’s and 2 IVF’s. Her son was born 6 weeks early due to a placental abruption via c-section. The C section recovery was very difficult, so she knew she definitely wanted to attempt a VBAC for her second pregnancy. She was told not to get her hopes up about having a VBAC by her high-risk doctors; but, she successfully delivered her daughter via VBAC after challenging the on call doctor at the hospital that morning. Connect with Alexandra on Instagram.

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Essential Guide to Breastfeeding

Hospital Grade Breastpump

The Birth Hour podcast VBAC Stories

Get a Lactation Consultant

Local Infertility Forums

Aeroflow Breastpumps

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Preeclampsia Family Centered Cesarean & Gestational Diabetes VBA2C Birth Stories

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 Preeclampsia leading to Family Centered Cesarean

When Megan Ray had her first baby, she was planning a water birth at home; but, she was overdue. She went in for a biophysical profile, and found out her blood pressure was through the roof and she was admitted for severe pre-eclampsia. They tried an induction, but her condition continued to deteriorate, so she had a c-section. It was family centered and very special, but she was very sick and doesn’t remember much of the actual birth.

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Megan got pregnant again right away (breast feeding isn’t birth control!) when her son was just 3 months old. She wanted a VBAC with the same nurse midwife group that ended up being her care provider when she went to the hospital with her first. She came to her due date again, after spending several weeks on BP meds for high numbers, and had a bad 24 hr urine test result. They moved forward with another induction, but after 24 or so hours trying to get things going her labs were getting worse and baby was not coming down. They said it was possibly a positioning issue, or maybe even breech, so she moved forward with a second family centered c-section.

VBA2C with Gestational Diabetes

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Megan and her husband waited a little longer to get pregnant a 3rd time so they’d have 18 months between births. Continuing care with her midwife, she changed some things about her pregnancy care, like different supplements and other care like scar tissue work with the C Section Recovery Center and lots of chiropractic care. She ended up with a gestational diabetes diagnosis that crushed her; but, with the support of her midwife she continued on her journey to a VBA2C. Since she needed medication to help control the GD, she moved forward with an induction at 39+2, this time with no signs of pre eclampsia! She had a cooks catheter placed the night before, pitocin started the next morning, and her baby girl, Jeanneva was born after only 15 minutes of pushing less than 12 hours later!

After Jeanneva was born, Megan had genetic blood testing done and found out she has a MTHFR mutation as well as another autoimmune clotting disorder, which most likely caused her pre eclampsia with her first 2 pregnancies and why taking a low dose aspirin with her 3rd kept it away.  She says she will have to be on injected blood thinners if she has another baby. She recommends that anyone who’s had multiple pre eclampsia experiences should have genetic testing done.

Megan Ray Bio

Megan and her husband live on a small family farm with goats, horses, cows, dogs, cats, a parrot, and a fish aquarium.  Oh yeah, and their 3 kiddos are aged three years and under! John Luke was born via unplanned c section in August 2013, Jessa in September 2014 by another unplanned c section, and Jeanneva was born March 2016 in a triumphant VBA2C! Megan is a lover of natural childbirth and a leader of a local cloth diapering mom’s group on Facebook. She is also pursuing becoming a leader of ICAN for North Texas.

Beco Baby Carriers

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Gestational Diabetes, Cesarean, and HBAC

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Ellen Richards is English born, and is now an Australian citizen, living with her family in South East Queensland. She and her partner, Billy, have 4 children, aged 13 years, 11 years, 8 years and 9 months. She was 44 when her fourth child was born. All have been planned to be born at home, and two of them were. Each birth was an incredibly positive experience, and each was totally different: an elective cesarean birth at almost 43 weeks; an ecstatic birth after a 76 hour labour; an intense 50 minute labour after a patient 10 day wait (with broken waters); and, a chemical hospital induction (which was at the clear indication of her unborn child). She also had gestational diabetes during two of her pregnancies, including one of the homebirths. Each pregnancy and birth has required Ellen and Billy to make many choices, and it is these choices, with the support of their midwives, that have made each birth such a positive experience.
Ellen used Hypnobirthing during her 76 hour labour, and as a result of this positive experience, she became a Clinical Hypnotherapist. Ellen is passionate about birth (in particular homebirth) and has been involved with Homebirth Queensland (a voluntary organization supporting families who choose to birth at home), for over a decade. She loves to share her positive birth experiences, and believes that other women can and will be more likely to have a positive birth if they know about other women’s wonderful experiences. Connect with Ellen on Facebook.

Birth resources

Sarah Buckley (a Brisbane based GP who wrote Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering)
Birth stories on Birth Without Fear
Dr Rachel Reed’s blog, midwifethinking.com,  (a research based blog written by a homebirth midwife, who is also a University lecturer)
Sara Wickham’s blog at sarawickham.com (another research based midwife blog).

Parenting Resources

The Continum Concept, by Jean Liedloff
Heart to Heart Parenting by Robin Grille

Plus Size Birth

Plus size Pregnancy Guide

Plus Size Mommy Memoirs Group

What is a B Belly?

What is an Apron Belly?

Hospital VBAC Birth Story

Elizabeth Quinn is married to Percy and they are raising their children in Jackson, Mississippi. Her daughters are Chesley Cox, 7 years old, Anderson Lillian ‘Anders’ 5 years old, and Adella Calhoon 2.5 years old and they just had baby number four — a son, Sims McCallum! Elizabeth Quinn returns to The Birth Hour to share her most recent birth story with baby Sims. Elizabeth had two cesareans and then a VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarean) and is really involved in the birth community in Jackson. She is super passionate about being educated about birth and helping women who have had c sections to know their options.

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Earth Mama Angel Baby Products Mentioned

Postpartum bundle

New Mama Bottom Balm

New Mama Bottom Spray

Postpartum Bath Herbs

Monthly Comfort Tea

Birth Resources

You can check out a long list of resources (many specifically helpful for VBAC) from Elizabeth on her original birth story page.

In this episode she mentions:

Spinning Babies Daily Essentials Dvd

The Miles Circuit


using rebozo in hospital